Night and Day: When Is It Easier To Meet Women?

August 6, 2015
T

In this post I’m going to tell you why day game is easier than night game. Women are off their guard and less likely to reject you as bars often have an air of pretentiousness. In reality, that’s what this post is covering.When most people talk about “day game” they think it’s the sunlight that affects your success with women.

Day game is as clear as day

Someone in a comment recently said that picking up women in the daytime is “obviously” easier than at night. It’s an issue I’ve been wanting to discuss now with the public. Whether you’re picking a woman up in the day or in the night is not a very important consideration (despite contrary belief). It’s really about picking up women in nightclubs and bars versus street pickups. To simplify it even further, it’s about context and social events. At clubs people have their “game faces” on while in the street they are just “on their way” somewhere.

Pick up before the sun goes down

(otherwise I lose my lighting) People who see my pick up videos often attribute the speed at which I seduce women to the “day” because most of my public videos are in the day. These videos are not there because day game is easier. Those videos are there because I don’t have the money to pay a club to let me film in it. Also, the music is just way too loud and Sydney lacks “lounge” type places. They’re not there because they were in the day; daytime just the most convenient time to shoot. In reality, it was easier because I have much more practice at picking up women off the street (regardless of the time of day) than in clubs. This is only because when I worked in corporate world I used my lunch breaks to set up women for that evening. It just worked for me and I did it more than five times before realizing that it was easier just doing that than continually researching night game (as being a pick up coach was my job during my degrees). My circumstances made day game easier for me and the next thing I knew I was a “daytime pick up artist” which was really not accurate. I’m sure if you’re ever tried picking up in the daytime you would understand that it’s the same game but you’re playing a different team now. These girls are different because of their contexts, not because of their personalities.

Walking on Sunlight

We are all affected by social proof. Some get more easily swayed by it than others. You know the types of people who faint when Bon Jovi walks past but continue eating while 13 year old girls are on the news talking about being sex slaves. Most people just keep eating because it’s one in a hundred news stories. You’re complacent with the graphic depictions on TV that you watch every night. Bon Jovi you may meet only once in your lifetime while everyone around you is just dying to meet him and for some weird reason you suddenly faint when he shakes your hand (if you’re a little girl, that is).

Be a social chameleon when approaching women

It’s the context; it changes you. Think of yourself as a social chameleon. You adapt and change to fit your context and your company. Chameleons change their colors when mating just as we do when approaching women and just as women do when they are approached (regardless of day, night, bar, street, etc.). Both men and women act differently when they are with their parents, their boss or when they’re trying to be attractive. Most of us try to reject others first because we all hate the idea of someone looking at us like there is something wrong with us. I like to think that if you’ve thought about whether something is reasonable or not you become a lot less frightened. This applies to both how women react when approached in the street and men’s approach anxiety at night. The correlation is that women do not expect to get picked up outside of clubs and most men freeze when in a nightclub because it is so obvious to everyone that they are approaching.

Welcome to the Jungle

Axel Rose of Guns N’ Roses once wrote : “Welcome to the jungle… You can have anything you want But you better not take it from me” Clubs can be very scary an intimidating jungles filled with lurking personalities. It can be quite daunting because most guys start to feel that their claim to the more attractive women is mitigated if there’s an alpha male around. The same excuses consistently arise out of guys who are thinking about approaching a woman. “She’s not alone” is a big one because of the perceived humiliation factor but if you’re comfortable with what you’re doing because you feel it is reasonable then they will be too.

Sincerity, enthusiasm and emotions in general are contagious (e.g. high energy vs. low energy guys). Either way, the usual excuse relates to a fear of being rejected. “There are so many people around” is the one I’ve heard in nearly every one of my workshops over the past five years. This excuse, to me, is simply my students saying, “I don’t want to get rejected in public, it will only exacerbate my shame if I get rejected. Help me!” On the other hand the majority of good looking women rarely ever get approached by guys who are not shitting themselves deep down even if they are acting like a Silverback Gorilla. You will not get rejected in a club any more or less than on the street if you’re a guy who has experience. By “experience,” I mean a guy who has just applied any of my four core principles at least three to five times on a stranger. That’s all it takes to get a good feel for it. Think of it like having two driving lessons after which you are instantly comfortable and ready to handle a race car. If you want to know more you can see the online course here. It is all about context and to prove it here is a video of me picking up a Belgium girl at night outside Sydney’s “Eastern” nightclub, so this post is not all just theory. For you hungry hounds I’ve put up some tips in this video that correlate to my previous posts, all of which cover my four core principles of seduction: counter-intuitiveness, playfulness, indifference and push/pull. So day game is not “obviously easier” and you guys should be aware of taking things like that for granted. Just think to yourselves once again: “It’s not about the daylight that makes picking up easier, it’s context and company.”

Daytime seductions are obviously easier

For now, I want to ask why is it “obviously easier?” It took me three years to SUSPECT it was “obviously easier” because the women were unsuspecting of being picked up. Back then I was a huge Sun Tzu aficionado (as I still am) and was caught up on his theory of surprise and how it gave you a seriously unfair advantage over your enemy.

Day game proved to be the battle ground of choice. Most men believe that picking up women in a bar (or at night generally) is easier because the women actually go there to socialize. They also believe it is more conducive to conversation as the women aren’t on their way somewhere with no time to talk during the working day.

Another one of the innumerable benefits for practicing “night game” is that the women get dressed up, put on their game faces and enter the social arena (bar/club/social event). This is how THEY like to play the game, from a position of power because they often feel much better presented (aesthetically) in these contexts which makes them feel more confident and therefore most likely to want to talk to a man. We all feel that to an extent in some contexts. I later proved myself wrong when I entered the corporate world and only had about 15 minutes to spare on my one hour lunch break. None of my friends went to clubs and I personally thought they were very superficial places (as I still do). I didn’t feel they were superficial because the people in them were superficial, but rather because they ACTED in a superficial way. After all, if you spend two hours getting ready, “I’m making myself better” is usually what you have in mind, isn’t it? I know I think that way about myself when I get ready as do most  of the girls and guys I know. We’re all more similar than you realize.

These things may sound obvious but how often do you really care to think about and notice them in everyday life? If you say “often,” then great, but most people are too caught up in their own life woes to spare the brain energy on things outside of their jobs and family.

Mr. Jones and Me

For older guys, day game has an appeal because night game is often very limited and filled with younger women to whom they find it hard to relate. Despite the common belief, from my experience I’ve realized that most older men do not prefer younger women because of their immaturity and naivety.

Many of my clients are engineers, barristers and IT guys who are pretty worldly, logical and professional and do not have the time to maintain the bullshit that often comes with younger women. They’d rather deal with the potential risk of “baggage” in an older women because often, the right guy just helps them to move on from their checkered past or defective personality traits.

The divorced embittered women who have come to me later forget they ever “thought men were pigs” once they fell in love again (ohh… isn’t that sweet?). These women are not all bad. In fact most feel so old and unsexy that any male attention is enough to give them a buzz. We under estimate how rarely people actually approach each other during the day. When did you do it last? I bet it was asking for a spare bar stool (or something else you may have considered an “approach”).

I won’t take you to the candy shop and you can’t lick the lollipop!

We also truly overestimate how rarely guys approach in bars. You see, I used to think guys ALWAYS approached in bars because I always saw groups of girls with guys. Most of them were all friends and arrived together. The others were guys doing one of three things (get a pen and take notes right now if you haven’t already):

ONE

Thought they were picking up a girl when in fact they were just making comments in passing to her like, “Nice night, isn’t it?”

TWO

Doubted whether they really were worthy of this girl and overcompensated by trying to reject the woman first, even though they were approaching her. They may have teased too hard, insulted them or simply been sleazy and disgusting.

These guys are the wankers, assholes and losers in clubs even if they’re totally cool, confident and popular in other aspects of their lives. They overcompensate and often guys who use “learned lines” or live and die by canned routines have the propensity to become this type of person. In short, they think they’re being really cool when in fact people can see right through them because despite their best efforts they’re not acting in a way consistent with that of an “attractive guy.”

THREE

The most common of these three types of guys are the ones who simply do not approach women at all. Many older guys have written to me expressing their disdain for seduction methods/techniques that simply would make them feel stupid. They would never be comfortable with saying something they perceive as a cheesy line that would be instantly detected as insincere or as some kind of ploy.

These guys doubt their abilities to such an extent that they often compensate by being really successful in other areas of their lives (e.g. work). They need to put their drive and ambition into things that furnish results and show development, like their careers. Women are just a no-go zone because it reeks of failure. Then they feel bad and try to cover it up with denial and/or complacency.

All these guys are all present in the night game arena. All of them are often obviously looking at the women who are walking by them. They’ve been drinking and they’re with their boys all filled with testosterone and all visually “sampling” the women. Women know guys look when they get dressed up. The problem is that they feel good about it for a second and then forget it ever happened. Many gorgeous women I’ve known are convinced that guys don’t approach them or even look at them but often they have forgotten completely or their backs were turned.

Enter Sandman

In the nighttime at bars and clubs there are more sources for external validation than women young and hot to enjoy. Nearly all three of the aforementioned categories of men above (also known as night-gamers) ogle the women who they all collectively decide “are the hottest.” All these guys also compete on who has the higher standards. They spend so much time competing on “whether the blond in the mini is hotter than the cougar in the jeans with the tits” that they kill all their opportunities.

They never approach because they’ve just asserted (for the past hour) that “the blond is a 10 and the cougar is an eight.” Either way, it doesn’t matter. They only feel confident enough to approach a six, and that’s only if they’re friends aren’t around to “see Steve fail with a 6! Ha!” Their mates would later tell them “not to take rejection too seriously” but it doesn’t help because they FEEL like big phonies.

These guys often fuck themselves right out of night game rather than right into a woman they’ve just met. Time and time again they can’t approach women because of the loss of face that may occur, particularly if their friends actually do get women and they don’t.

Purple Haze All Through Your Brain

Mental blanks are that black fog you get in your mind when you really feel you have nothing to say. These usually always come from guys letting a rejection deter them from approaching and the rejection ends up being remembered as a whole lot worse than it actually was. Then they doubt themselves and the excuses come to cover up the honest truth that “I don’t feel I can get her.” This is why night game is harder for the majority of men.

The holes into which they dig themselves and the increased pretentiousness of women when they get themselves out. Women, especially ones who are not confident or get approached badly on a regular basis, often feel and act like they have the pick of the litter when they’re looking good, drunk/drugged and out with their friends. You see, women don’t exactly “approach” because, why should they? To them it’s a common fact that men often just want sex quickly and they will feel cheap and slutty if they “just get fucked by some random guy.”

After all, it’s traditional for the man to approach; it’s the norm worldwide (unless you’re getting married off to a 13 year old in Iran, then it’s all about your family and your dowry. Puke). But women at clubs WANT to approach and they do it in their own special ways.

Pretty Woman, Walking Down the Street, The Kind I’d Like to Meet

1) The pretentious ones: Some don a seemingly impenetrable facade of pretentiousness because they feel insecure and want to cover it up. It’s usually because the girl next to her has better breasts (even though she thinks she “has better legs and a nicer face”).The Online Dating Course for Men will give you the tools that you need to pick up women who are like this. Some of you (sticky beak subscribers of mine who subscribe to my Twitter) found out about the post I started writing a year ago on ice queens and unresponsive women. If you’re still interested let me know and I’ll start testing it again if you feel it will help.

2) Flirty women: Whether it’s the girl at the pub who talks to anyone or the model at a magazine launch, these girls know how to get their way with men. Many of them simply just TALK to these guys more than other women and somewhere in the back of the guys’ minds they like that.

Something tickles them that they’re being approached for once. These are the women who flirt to gently (or hot and heavily) play their targets and woo them at will. Despite contrary belief these women often are not bad people, they’re just smart women who know how to use what they have, even if it’s just charisma. You’ll be more likely to see a guy think about this woman while he’s in the swing of it than think about some naked blond in a magazine. Why? You know why, because it’s more real (and now we have amateur porn).

3) The oblivious women: For whatever reason, some women are just totally oblivious to even realize the mere fact that you’re of the opposite gender. They are also the women who are taken, lesbian, newly taken and those with restrictive standards. You know them, in fact, you’ve probably worked with them. They’re the girls who “don’t date guys from work” or “don’t date guys from school” and also those who “love a hard one in the morning” (NB: Lost a bet to Jack Coxwell so I had to write “love a hard one in the morning” in a post. Long story). Either way, they don’t consider you an option and never have.

4) The options: The girl(s) with whom you actually do have a chance if you pull it off right. In reality, these women are the ones men, for whatever reason, do not pursue unless they have a game plan and a good idea as to what’s going to happen next.

They are just as easy to pick up as all the other types of women that you often find in middle to upper class bars and clubs but talk yourself out of approaching. The best part is that the vast majority of women in bars and clubs are there for a reason. If they have friends that party hard they will often party hard with them. If they have a boyfriend it doesn’t matter because they like the attention and flirting with the risk.

Taken women often lack outlets to use their sexuality to the same effect as they could in their younger/single years. These are the four main types of women with which the bars of the world have provided me. Type four made night game worthwhile but when you work all day in the 9 a.m. to 5 p.m. hours (or more) you’re often left with your lunch break as the only time you’re active, alert and stimulated from your joke (or even just “not tired and bored when you do it” will suffice).

This was one of the many reasons I decided to try “day game” (picking up women off the street during the day). I was awake and stimulated during the day while lazy and never motivated enough to get ready and go out at night. Only in trying day game did I realize that all my complicated theories about personality types and nighttime social dynamics (above), are not outdated, just trumped by the power of surprise that is inherent in day game.

Enter Sandman

You can take women by surprise at night simply by being different than all the other guys that have stumbled up to her. For that you would apply my four core principles which are mentioned in all my posts. You need to understand though that using the four principles at night is the fastest way to pick up women. However, the context in which you will be using them will be different so you need to understand that it’s not whether night game is better than day game, but rather it’s whether or not you’re educated in how to approach different situations.

I Did It My Way

There’s always an easier way and I’m forever on the hunt to discover the fastest and simplest ways to seduce. I read Sun Tzu’s Art of War and then applied his learning so I could pick up on my lunch break. I made the solution suit me so that day game became my forte simply because it’s all I had to work with. That’s why many of my videos are filmed in the daytime (and also because of filming rights, sound issues and poor lighting in clubs). Many times we do get lucky though.I’ll update the videos soon since I know it’s been ages.

Whether it’s meeting women during the day or picking up girls in a bar, your preferred choice will be surprisingly similar to wherever you’ve had past successes. In other words, if the last two girls you met were picked up off the street are negligible compared to the four you picked up through friends, you may consider yourself good “only once you’re their friend.” The most dangerous thing is that you will forget all of this. It is not as succinct and as simple as it should be learned. In fact, reading this is probably just overloading your brain with “principles” which you will easily forget. All this learning and new knowledge you have will be pushed to the back of your mind by work and by life in general, and you’ll forget the obvious:

“It’s about context and company” when it comes to picking up women (and men for that matter, ladies).

If he’s with his mates you will often get a cold and macho response, ladies. Guys, if she’s just sitting there blank as you approach her do not be surprised if she is more likely to reject you.

Why do you risk get rejected more at night?

Well, if it’s anything like what I always see, it is usually because her friends have been approached by “hotter guys than you” and she then adopts her friends’ standards (just like she may out of a Cosmo Magazine, too. Can’t believe I was in that, puke). This is all assuming you know NOTHING about picking up women. If you’ve read my blog or want to do my online course then picking up women at a bar (at night) will not be a problem, rather, it will be a pleasure.

For now, the best thing you can do is to try to remind yourself of this FACT. It’s not a trick, just a fact. Remember it next time you’re nervous or feel like you’re being talked down. Remember that you’re not a lamb approaching the slaughter. Think of yourself more as the landlord of the slaughterhouse or even better, “the president,” as one of my recent Polish clients told me (weird considering his country’s president just passed away. I think he was just being a little off there). Be Well,

T

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T- ure skills are admirable but your historical facts are not especially after your comments on top”unless you’re getting married off to a 13 year old in Iran, then it’s all about your family and your dowry. Puke”) Firstly you are generalising and may be you have mixed up IRAN with IRAQ as often people do? In fact when I came to this comment of yours…I was shocked cause I though of you as an open minded guy and well traveled . I haven’t got a slightest clue about your background but this statement of yours is really offensive. I wanted to put some of your facts right on this issue . Firstly Iran which means the land of aryans brought about the world’s first civilization 10,000 years ago youtube(World’s oldest Civilization- Jiroft (Iran)- Part 1) and u can youtubeCyrus King of Persia 1and also watch the parts 2 and 3 if interested to get your facts right and I can share some historical books on this subject if interested or simply visit the library of congress in washington DC. Secondly human are humans any where you go whether its US or UK or Iran  although u might be a well traveled man u have definitely not visited Iran so i would very much like to invite you one day to my motherland which apparently is also known for its beautiful and stunning women. 

Cheers,

and when your free would you be able to do a post on charm?

heyy T,
i’m really curious with joe’s question cause it has happened to me a lot of times before:/ but my question is if you can give me some examples on how to be different to a girl and how to tease her cause im not clear on the both of them
thanks mate

Damn! Thanks T for helping millions like me worldwide! (although I haven’t yet used your advice yet.. and haven’t been laid yet.. but I will subscribe to beginner’s program today!) … Anyways .. I am really curious as to how you will respond to Fred and most importantly, Joe Page’s questions! I have bookmarked this page so I can check it occassionally to see if you respond to their questions coz I want to know the solution to that! Once again, Thanks for being an angel man! I really liked your post about all the other Date Doctors and the crooked onez who made u loose sleep! Let them go to hell! U carry on with ur good work! And what ever u do… do not shut down ur site … at least not until i learn something more from it and become confident enough to pick up on my own! I was thinking after 6 years u may be pretty bored of stuff and looking for newer challenges in life. … and more exciting rite? Not that I have a solution … but i was just wondering … everybody gets bored of stuff eventually … then it struck me … that u probably found ur match .. from the opposite sex? and decided to settle down with her? Or is there a curse to this whole GAME … that eventually it becomes a GAME and u cannot seem to settle on one particular woman? lol … too many questions … i’m trying to jump ahead of myself .. my head is spinning … u carry on the gud work! Thankx!

Hey T, I’m 23 years old and not really finding it hard to pick up women. I seem to have a problem Getting women younger than me. I’ve now been on dates with women 26, 26, 24, 25, and one 23 year old. I’ve only been single since June-ish so I feel that’s not a bad track record but I have’t been able to meet girls through the daygame. Because of liquid courage. I do fine at night but the problem with meeting girls at night at a bar. The problem with that is the girls I want to meet are the type that wouldn’t sleep with you at a bar. Would you suggest the daygame to pick up women younger than myself and is this probably the best way to pick up women that are honest and aren’t looking to sleep around?

I see Axl Rose and the boys got booed off stage at Dublin – those annoying music-lovers get all over the place LOL!

Hey sorry I don’t know what your name is but I’ve been watching a lot of your videos and I just wanted to know if everything that is on this website also applies to people who are 15 and 16 years old please write back to me if you can. By the way I put my E-mail address in the mail section and I’m not sure if that’s what you meant by mail but ok bye 🙂

I got the girl number. I started to text her, which is probably the wrong approach, but she started texting me back. she text one day and she mentioned she wanted sushi and i told her I know of this great place and she texted lets go. I replied, ok lets go this friday and she like lets ask some other pplz. the day of I pick up her and her friend and one mutual guy friend. I really thought she like me we made some other plans too, to go hooka and beer garden.I think she was into me but I might have taken to long to ask her out. I’ve been texting her for over a week and i haven’t made any direct moves. howeverm last night we went out for a mutual friends bday party and one of her close friend asked me so do u like her and i thold her yeah i think she’s cute and she tells me I don’t think ur her type and I think u guys should just be friends, what do I do now? I don’t know if the girl i like told her to tell me or she just assumed i’m not her type. what do u guys think? I think i’m just going to ask this girl out and she if she into me or not.

I find cold approach on moving targets in the street itself a bit too difficult for the beginner that I am but is there a way to pick up girls who serve you in fast-foods or coffee shops?
I like these because ordering stuff from them actually gives you the perfect excuse to talk to them without using gimmicks or rhetoric.
I gaze deeply into their eyes and order with a deep masculine voice talking slowly. Sometimes I can feel they pick up my signal but from there I don’t know how to capitalise on it. I keep going to the same place again and exchange eye contact and smiles with the girl with whom it worked but that’s about it. There is this one Turkish girl I really really like and I want to know what to do to date her.

dude, nice article, i have to say i watched your video on youtube and it was awesome, it is really easy to approach a woman the problem is most of us dont dare to do that specially in day light. i havent try your methods because i havent had the opportunity and when i did i didnt use them and i think i did something wrong..but anyway i really appreciate if you can help with that. keep up the nice job.

I am an Indian good looking guy.
I like white girls and want to have a GF.
but i think white girls are not attaracted to brown men. Is it the case.
I am a pretty confident guy in my profession and also with other Indian girls but whenever i talk to the white girls, my confidence is gone.
I dnt know how to talk to them.
please reply me.

i am a highschool student who has just turned 18, i have applied a lot of different techniques to situations that dont happen once you graduate. i am trying to start a highschool or younger male pua program but i dont know how to start it.

Jesus:
it is hard to pick up wemon/girls at scchool, but it is because of the emotion that is kept inside during the day. its drugery just getting to your next class and nothing matter until you get out? thats the mindset we get during school and again im talking about highschool but im sure it can be applied in your area as well. i find it very easy at school because everything is so normal anything different or intersting will light up a girls face. the energy is the problem, you need to get your self pumped up, add some motivation by telling yourself that it will be easy, manifest man. look for somthing funny or interesting to piont out or make a joke about and your in.

there is a lot of agism in our society and yes i am good looking but i find it dosnt matter otherwise i would have had no trouble getting girls. this is what i have to add if there are any younger people out there who read this and think its only for 18 and up because of clubs and things like that, e-mail me. candyman179c@aol.com

thanks T your revolutionary!

I never said they didnt. I’ve just said there’s more potent things you can do other than looks. Looks are common, looks can be trumped, looks help but they’re not essential and people place way too much emphasis on them. I know a million ugly guys who pick up (look at Lil Wayne or Fifty Cent). Social proof and the cult of celebrity gets them laid, not looks.

Guys think looks matter more than they do because WE ourselves are very visual creatures and we assume women are too. You’d be wrong.

It also depends on the type of women he attracts and whether you’re intimidated by him or just assume you’re lower value and almost let him take them off your hands.

I think you’re right in that looks do help, loosing weight will help but if good looks were the most potent thing then I’d be pushing fitness and make-overs here, so take it from a guy who’s tested this over 19,000 times world wide, looks don’t matter when you’re trained.

PS: Most of the good salesmen I know in the business world as ugly as hell and close women with the greatest of ease. They just apply the same sales concepts to pick up and they’re rarely ever my clients because they simply don’t need help. They convince people to part with their money (regardless of their looks) and in reality it’s just another seduction. Either way, you’re still using interpersonal skills to close a deal (of any kind, monetary, sexual or otherwise).

It’s been common knowledge you can teach people to ‘seduce’ since the dawn of time but yet you still sound like a martyr to me.

Well I give you the example of me and my house mate. He is a year younger than I am , Karate black belt, 6’2”, Athletic and when we go out he gets all the attention. Even if we are speaking to a group the girl I am speaking to eventually just goes on about how hot my friend is, that is when the girls aren’t ignoring me and just going for him. So I have seen for myself, looks do matter to women.

hi t , I found out that i’m best at the park, I recommend this for everybody reading this, its much easier if you have no experience to pick girls up in the park, everything just happens by itself, but for some reason I can’t pick girls up at school, hope you can help me

It sounds weird in any language mate, that’s the point, to make you more complacent with social awkwardness and teach you to push through. Nice work buddy by the sound of things you’re already quite mature for your age.

PUA watchdog is just the start mate. I’ve been doing this for 6 years and in that time many thousands of people try to take me down.

They say I’m gay, a fake, a fraud, a faggot or even worse, they try to sue me just to muscle me out of the market. I’ve made many many statements in my early days about the haters but when I posted my replies up on the major sites that get good SEO like Venusian Arts I end up having my posts edited and changed without my knowledge. When I complain about that my IP address gets blocked and then all I ever see is that the “site is down for maintence” for my IP address.

It’s too much effort for too many unimportant little people who either are too macho to admit they need help or are pissed off that I have the highest ranked dating videos in the world on Youtube. Type in “how to kiss a girl”, “how to kiss a woman”, “pick up artist”, “how to get a woman’s number” (And about 100 more terms), even type them into Google Video, you’ll see I’m the top. I’m taking their traffic and so I should, fuck them.

No one ever has doubted my stuff once they actually READ and / or TRY it. Usually all it takes is just one blog post to convince these guys to leave me alone because Bar Tenders cum Pick up Artists cum Self-Help Gurus cum Online Marketers can NEVER compete with me or my stuff (how arrogant does that sound). They ALL make more money than me because they’re savvy as hell but their content is trash, it’s often ghostwritten or written by them with a quick buck in mind. They earn more money, buy more ad-words and employ better SEO companies to promote themselves but ultimately the real artists fade into the background or just turn into full time academics who later just theorise and philosophise things that ‘sound good and logical’ (just like my critics) but when you try their stuff it’s just vague and doesn’t work simply.

Real Social Dynamics sued me (internationally mind you) because I used “real social dynamics” in ONE of my video’s descriptions. IT just so happened it was my flagship video (my kiss close) and they muscled Youtube to take it down. They took it down for 6 weeks so all the 700 sites that embedded it over that year then un-embedded it as it said “Down to copyright claim by Real Social Dynamics”. I spent all I earnt from my site ($20,000) on a Barrister (a high end Australian attorney) just ON PAPERWORK because it was SO insane there’s no way it could ever go to trial.

How could they? Freedom of speech and even though it was a registered trademark so is Microsoft and McDonalds and people make videos and articles commenting on them ALL the time. Either way….it’s just too much stress and big waste of time. Additionally, giving these people attention is actually AGAINST my whole philosophy. They’re losers in my eyes and most of them forget that I am a lawyer by trade, so it’s pretty hard to pressure me like they did to Jack Coxwell, Johnny Soporno (so I’ve heard) and many other little guys who do this stuff and don’t make enough money to protect themselves.

All I want to do is help guys and replying to haters is not how I like to spend the very small amount of spare time I have. I’d rather build a new site about helping the homeless (something I’m doing now: a directory listing homless people who can offer services like boot polishing, radio repairs or even making bracelets). Someone spending even 1 more night in the street for a homeless person or 1 more guy getting rejected by some bitch that destroys his ego in one fell-swoop is more important to me than giving attention to these people and fortunately it’s the same for other people who are empathetic enough to have a social conscience.

As you said, read my stuff, watch my stuff, try my stuff. Not one person EVER….EVER has not been able to do what I say and get even some benefit from it. Ever.

So to the haters….

Enjoy being angry guys behind computers because the real world is bigger and more important than the internet. People are dying, starving or even simply just feeling sorry for themselves and develop depression. I’d like to stop that so if the haters can please move out of my way I’d like to continue on with what’s really important and that’s helping people and showing gratitude where-ever you can. Not about sites that only exist just to say I’m a fraud because one guy understands SEO and WordPress so he feels powerful. Ultimately these guys are the true geeks. The angry nerds who get a kick out of being a big man on a forum or on a blog because they’re the Moderator and they can “flame” people at will.

I pracitce what I preach (luckily I don’t preach good spelling, I’m a bad speller), so in that vein let me conclude with this:

These guys are a joke (reward bad behaviour) and aren’t even a blip on my radar (indifference). Either way, all the bad publicity I get (push) about being “sleazy”, “manipulative”, “Fraudulent”, etc all just brings me more traffic (pull) and gets me more loyal subscribers (reasonableness and context). So keep up the good work haters! (Graciousness).

How’s that for a re-frame?

The longer the better! Thanks so much for your praise and indepth comment.
1. “if something’s not working, you don’t want to keep repeating it, instead change strategy and try again.” very important and accurate point.

2. The Power of Now: it’s OK….just don’t move on to stuff like Power vs Force, that’s spiritual bullshit and promotes a delluded reality instead of being confident and effective as YOU in the REAL world.

3. Body language is VIP, it’s in Playfulness in my 4 core principles as ‘playfulness’ is all about the non-verbal aspects of communication / seduction. I disagree though with you prioritising it because it has proven in my tests to be less effective than something verbal like push/pull. The most important parts in my opinion are not leaning in and speaking at a measured paced (instead of stuttering or talking too much because that’s what nervous guys do and that’s how you’ll be labelled).

4. “If you’re a virgin then that’s not really the issue, it’s the shame that’s holding you back. We don’t have a hymen or any physical way of telling so what i did was read lots of sex tips and err…watch porn before i first had sex and turned out she thought i was really good.” I would recommend a text called the Sex God Method 2nd Edition, the first 50% of the book is gold, the last 50% is trash as it’s all about ‘roleplaying’ which I HATE as it’s unneccessary and irrelevant for most one night stands. Good for a relationship though if you’ve been married for 25 years and your wife needs a lost German tourist outfit to get her enthused….or a gerbil.

Quick note to show appreciation for this article T… just bookmarked it under my ‘Interesting Articles’ folder! Can totally relate to your reason for day game… I started off 2 years ago (terrified to talk to women in the day) exactly because I didn’t have the time to go clubbing (due to the insane amount of work you get at Oxford, srsly, don’t do a science subject there if you want a life) so I would approach on the way to lectures or lunchtime, basically whenever I was on the street and saw an attractive girl.

@Cal: you will get there in the end if you put in the practise (5 approaches a day, say) with some guidance on technique (had to put that there for T lol) because if something’s not working, you don’t want to keep repeating it, instead change strategy and try again. I found the popular book ‘The Power of Now’ helped me to clear my mind for long enough to prevent AA and start walking toward the girl. Maybe this guy’s program would motivate you too, because damn it was tough to motivate myself every day, and i must confess that I had some temporary dips and copped out on lots of hotties who could have been with me. The pain of losing that opportunity is a good motivator, better to try and her not choose to accept your approach that have the pain of losing the opportunity of some form of relationship.
Also, if you haven’t had much approaching practise, you’ll probably find it’s body language more than what you’re saying that’s blocking you, but with practise you get calibrated i.e. you get a feel for how to position yourself.
The things you mention in your post… if you feel overweight, accept what it is for now and get started with the pickup (people will wait forever to do what they need to do) and get a plan for losing weight if it will make you feel better. Attractiveness is not so important in guys (and i’ve seen some ugly guys with hot babes), but trying out different fashions / hairstyles etc will give you confidence taking care of yourself as well as present a better external image. If you’re a virgin then that’s not really the issue, it’s the shame that’s holding you back. We don’t have a hymen or any physical way of telling so what i did was read lots of sex tips and err…watch porn before i first had sex and turned out she thought i was really good. Most guys just don’t learn about this stuff so you’ll know you could give her a better time than most guys without the experience. I think virgin is a loaded word with lots of social connotations like not being a man etc (I know i felt inadequate before my first time, but then was just like ‘that was lots of fun, but not as life changing as i thought it would be!’ cos then you realize it’s all in your mind (unless you get witnesses in to watch lol)

Well that’s been a long post for ‘quick note’, but if just one person finds something in there useful then I’ll be happy 🙂

T!

I´m really into your stuff, i´ve been dating coach on my own for almost 2 years now and all the time i kinda looked up to your “style” and how you present yourself and your stuff.

Really like the way you teach and even due to the fact i only saw your free teasers i can definitely tell u really got skill.

credits to you at this point, but there´s one thing i would really like to aks you. There have been some insults on this PUA watchdog site where some guys called you a fraud.

I still don´t believe that (first of all because everyone who reads your things and watches your stuff MUST see that it´s all valuable and good advice, must be more than an total AFC to miss these facts) BUT I really would like to hear/read your statement on that.

So if not here in public, at least in private then, i´m looking forward to hear/read from you.

Best wishes and greetz from Austria

I’m pretty atractive but i never get the wommen that i personaly looking to go in a relationship .I’m very shy, i have try to trying to do the nipple trick but it sound wierd in french.
But your tip overal help me, and how i’m looking at women now.I don’t have any difficulty to aproche women in the school because i said it my playground and i say to myself that everyone there wants to speak with me.(I also do jump stars, that keep me in a great moon.)
Great topic

Interesting read, but no matter what my brain keeps telling me that I can’t do this stuff. I’m a 31year old, overweight, un-attractive and I ashamed to admit still a virgin. I kind of feel that from the start even If I did approach I’m at a huge disadvantage and need to pull of a miracle to get anywhere. I have very, very little to offer any kind of woman.

My software picked up your age? I don’t have age-picking software….you told me your age in a private email to me mate.

My stuff is way too cheap but if you make it too expensive the younger guys who are usually just student’s can’t afford it and then spend even more of their life using complicated methods, learning the wrong stuff and simply not getting laid.

My $ is not worth the emotional damage rejections can do to some guys who aren’t taught how to pick up and how NOT to get rejected (and most of all how NOT to care about it at all).

Respect Dave, most 52 year old guys like you would NEVER go direct as they feel this is a thing for “young guys” because my site is filled with photos of me (a young guy) with young girls.

Direct is refreshing and works amazingly on older women because most of the time they haven’t been approached by a guy for about 20 years (if they’re 50 themselves).

and this goes so much to ease of application. within a rwo mile radius of my home are six major supermarkets,. now do i have a favorite. no. do i stock up, no. i maket each and every day. what i need for the day. would i like to have a full fridge and sit at home where very few women wonder in or run into women each and every day. second, there is bound to be at least one cute checker woking every day at one maket or another. do i want to go to the speediest line or the line where i can engage the cutest checker? the next day another market, same deal. whenever i go back, i only have a few items, it becomes clear to her i have notice her and am in her line for a reason. reasonableness? now real life example, the other day i needed cigars, she and i had to go to the legally mandated counter to keep children from accessing tobacco, and at that point i mentioned that i dont think i have ever seen her wear makeup. she forgot the other customers waiting for us to return and we had a nice exchange about how she does eyeliner, and the rest only sometimes but she is sure it just wears off to the point i don’t notice. content here is irrelevent, i am the guy who engaged her. what i have done since is just add strokes each time i see her. the conversation lengthens a little more each time, reasonable? and it gets to the point where it is obvious to us both we need to sit down and lengthen the convesation. i like to build comfort in this way, but the point is that i am the guy who stands out, who took an interest.
in a normal, easy fashion, without all the bs that goes on at clubs. in other situation on the street, a woman i might see passing on the street, i have tried T’s direct approach, and found it works well.

first, just like your software picked up my age, i have been covered
with click-throughs to attract conect inspire dot com or some such
nonsense, it is aimed at older guys, but it absolutely sucks, just
what you do not want to do. guy’s name is ad am gil ad,
i say i think you do not want to do that but i am beginning to suspect
there are a lot of guys out there who follow this stuff, with no real
intention of following the program, it is just fun to co-miserate
(this guy is having a convention 1 wk after launch) and more fun to
tell locker room stories than have a woman lay in their arms. but
specifically, the guy is making a fundamental mktng mistake which i
see you have avoided, but is becoming rampant. he is (this is stupid
on more than one level, but i know you are busy) pitching the idea
that you can mentor younger women, predicated on show of success and
wealth. this is ok to a point in the upscale market but he does not
differentiate, but besides the obvious flaw, he is discounting, and i
am sorry, but $20,000 off sticker does not attract me, just give me
the price of quality. it kills me that so many of your competitors
are engaged in price-war ( i got an offer for tha entire package for
$5, m.back. guarntee, for just the cost of shipping. shit, a video of
a movie you saw, a re-run coumes out @ $17!

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